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Harry B. Hawes wants you to come. They want some women because the women are all up in arms about Smith's religion, about his lady, and about his manners. It's the same old story. Do go.”

I said I would, and I said, “Will Irene Gibson come?” Well, Irene was sick or somehow couldn't come. I felt that we did it better as a team. We worked very well together. We did do some other speeches together, though I can't think where they were. Aileen Webb was picked to come. She's Mrs. Vanderbilt Webb, the daughter of William Church Osborn, a very consistent and intelligent Democrat, and a very nice woman, a very charming person.

Al Smith made, while he was Governor of New York, a number of converts to him and to the Democratic cause among women of exceptionally exclusive social position of opportunity and privilege. They were the type, primarily, who were interested in social work. This is how he made them. Just yesterday (22 October 1952) I met Pauline Davis at a Democratic meeting and I said to her, “Oh, my goodness, are you still a Democrat, Pauline?” She's been married to three Republicans, I think, and her father, of course, was a Republican. She became a Democrat during Al Smith's day. Now she's quite an elderly party. She's the widow of Dwight Davis and an awfully nice woman. She was born Pauline Morton. She became a