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deprive them of all the benefits they have.” It was that usual line of talk. I'd heard that before. There wasn't a strong union in the area and I doubt if there was a union to belong to, except by some artificial method of getting to it.

She said, “Of course, we have some disgruntled employees. Every now and then they say that they're going to make an organization, and so forth, but there's nothing to it.”

However, the husband ran the factory pretty well. Everything was clean. The cafeteria was all right, but it was just like quantities of other cafeterias in industrial plants. The general working conditions were not too good. For instance, she had not thought about the provision of seats for women. Seats are required by law in the State of New York - by a law we passed during the Smith's administration. In the garment industry, particularly, seats are very practical. It's not an impossibility at all there, though in some industries it's difficult. That hadn't appeared to have occurred to her. The fire conditions were not altogether good. I remember finding bars across certain windows that led to fire escapes. It had escaped her attention. Her husband, however, had a reason for it -





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