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that there was robbery through those fire escapes. You had to prevent people from coming and stealing goods. You had to prevent employees from passing goods out the window to an accomplice on the fire escape, which of course is the usual objection to having free access to fire escapes, but it's extremely important to have it. He said that that ought to be corrected, and would be corrected.

I really ran sort of an inspection tour of the factory. I couldn't help it. I wasn't disagreeable. We'd gone out for political purposes and that. I was interested to know just how much of a factory it was.

Then she assembled everybody, promising us that it would be on company time, called them into one of the biggest operating rooms. They all came in and stood and we made speeches to them about how they should vote, how they should vote for Al Smith, why, what he had done, his social attitudes and his program. Then Mrs. Donnelly spoke and told them how they should vote for Al Smith, how, “He wants to do for the whole country just what I do for you in this place here.” It was that kind of thing.

I put it down as kind of an ignorant paternalism. She was being paternalistic without knowing it. She didn't have any paternalism, but it seemed to her a good way. I didn't see any democratic relationship. I was well aware