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train of Mormons, getting to Utah.” However, there had been a permanent settlement of Mormons there ever since.

He discussed that and was very interesting. He said, “You'll probably see some of them. The Mormons are mostly Democrats. We can nearly always count on the Mormon vote to be Democratic, though this town is split. There are some Republicans and it's not a solidly Democratic town.”

We said, “Who's rough out here?”

“Oh, well,” he said, “they use bad language, are always quarreling with each other, and they're down on Smith.”

We arrived in Independence. We were going to speak in a hall. There was a sign out in front of it, saying, “Speaking tonight.” What I noticed was that there had been other banners around there that had been torn down and were hanging from the lamp posts. I asked what that meant and he said, “Oh, some boys, I guess, trying to break up things. Just kids romping around.”

While we were turning the corner of the street to go into the meeting, somebody ran up a fire ladder and pulled down the banner that was announcing the speaking. I said, “The same boys?”

“Yeah,” he said, “the same boys.”

I thought to myself, “There is some thing going on