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terrible. I remember that I hated to give up being Industrial Commissioner of the State of New York. It nearly killed me. I did almost the same to my successor, except that I had this terrible example before me of Al's getting embittered because he tried to run something he was through with. I remember feeling, “But I must tell him what he should do in regard to this, that, and this other subject. This is all agreed upon and must be done.” It's very difficult not to do that. I think probably I would have been a nuisance at that time if I hadn't been appointed so quickly and had to jump into the middle of a maelstrom almost instantaneously when Roosevelt was elected. I think I might have been a problem to my successor in New York.

It's just a human trait. If your successor is an enemy and belongs to the opposite party, you wash your hands and hope they'll ruin the thing. That really isn't true, but you don't expect them to take your advice, although you're concerned that the right thing should be done. If it's a friend, you think it ought to be just the same as you've done it. It's awfully hard not to.

I'm sure that was the way Al felt. He'd promised to help and he meant to help. He did think that Frank, as he called him, was not very strong. He was not very well. He wasn't strong. He couldn't take the rap. Anyhow, he didn't