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The chamber maids and the downstairs girls - waitresses and pantry maids - were also civil servants. They'd been there forever. I don't know about the cook, because after all you don't see the cook. The cook is the cook. She was a woman and I did see her before the Smiths left. She had been there forever and had her rights too.

It was a well organized household, organized on the basis of the civil servants of the State of New York. They did their jobs properly. Of course they grew older and sometimes there would be younger men or women brigaded in with them for temporaries. On the night of a big reception or a big dinner there were extras brought in for the occasion - extra men and women. The women you got to know more intimately in the cloak room, because they knew everybody. I stayed there often enough that I knew the upstairs maids too.

As the Smiths stayed on there for several years, these people became intimates. They became just a changed group of people who were interested and concerned about the life of the Executive Mansion, about the family, about all the people in it, about all the friends. When you'd come up the butler would greet you like a long lost friend and say he was so glad to see you, becoming completely unbent. He would tell you where the Governor was last night, that Mrs. Smith had gone somewhere and the Governor had asked to have