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“Oh, yes, I'll be up here a lot,” he said. “Frank wants me to help him. I'll keep track of things and be around all the time. We'll take your matter up when it comes up. I'll tell Frank about it.”

I remember thinking to myself, and even saying to him once, “You know what you ought to do, Governor? You ought to go off and take a long trip somewhere, letting this thing shake down before you come in on it.”

He said, “Well, I'll do that after I get Frank started. I am going away for a trip.” But he never got a chance to get Frank started.

I don't know whether Smith assumed that I would just stay on in the Industrial Commission. I never asked him that. I didn't assume it, but I assumed that other things being equal the new Governor would ask me to continue as a member of the Industrial Board. I did not assume that he would ask me to be Industrial Commissioner. That I was surprised at. I didn't think he would do that and I didn't think there was any necessity for it. I knew that he had to find a new Industrial Commissioner. Hamilton was just a total failure. Al knew that and Al said to me, “I've told Frank that he's got to get rid of Hamilton. This is the time to do it. There's no time like the beginning. That he's got to do





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