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there. That might have been either before or after the war. During the war I lived at Mary Rumsey's for a while. We were all so busy at that time. She had a place on Long Island very nearby. She was out there rattling around and I stayed out there two or three months. Then we saw them in Paris afterwards. In Paris a few Americans see each other a good deal because there aren't so many others.

Mrs. Roosevelt I never knew as well as I knew Mary Rumsey and Dorothy Whitney. Dorothy Whitney was a very young girl when she came into the Consumers' League. Her godmother and more or less guardian and chaperone, Beatrice Bend, was a director of the Consumers' League. Beatrice Bend was a perfectly lovely person who later married a man who became ambassador to Italy under a Republican administration. It was a very late marriage. Beatrice must have been forty-odd when she married him. She was already a member of the Board of the Consumers' League. It was natural for her to attract Dorothy into it. When Dorothy came into the Consumers' League to do her provisional member's social work she was quite a young girl. She couldn't have been more than eighteen. That's where I principally got to know her well because she was fumbling. Our acquaintanceship continued. As I said before, New York was a small world. The people who did anything were few in number so that no matter what





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