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is a foam that will put out a gasoline fire that's been developed there. They have a full-fledged city fire department - two of them, as a matter of fact - on the grounds of the Eastman Kodak Company in the film end of it. They expect the city fire department to come if they call, but they don't rely on them because they can get there fast and they have fully equipped, fully trained and fully authorized firemen.

No other firm has the hazards that that company has. The Kodak shop is not particularly hazardous, but the manufacture of films is a peculiar hazard. Nobody else in the State of New York has that.

I may be speaking too optimistically, but I really don't think so. Most of the time that I was a member of the Industrial Board, and all the time that I was Industrial Commissioner, I don't think that I ever met or found a group of employers who were recalcitrant and determined not to have these codes go through, with the single exception of the real estate people who operated loft buildings and who operated various types of run-down property where they themselves were not the owners, but the operators, and were renting the premises to get the most money possible out of it. The little man who ran a factory in there didn't care what you ordered in the way of fire escapes. That was the owner's business. The real estate operator was anxious to





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