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themselves.

Take, for instance, the dry cleaning industry. I remember plainly an employer of a dry cleaning establishment from Rochester. He was one of the most intelligent employers I ever met in my life. We got more ideas from him about what ought to be done than we got from all the professors imaginable, because he was a practical man who had seen these things in operation. He knew the hazards. He came down to see me before we had scheduled such a code and said that we must get to that code right away, that the dry cleaning situation in New York State was very hazardous and that he was very much alarmed about it. He did the best he could in his factory, but he was afraid there would be trouble, there would be fire and explosions. He wanted a code formed. He said he would try to help us.

I said, “Well, why don't you do for yourself all these things that you know ought to be done?”

He said, “My problem is that I have to meet the price of other people in competition. If they all have to do the same thing, then we start fair on the competition. If my plant and the maintenance of my plant costs me just the same as everybody else's, then I can quote a price to a customer that's just as good as anyone else, or better if I'm more efficient.”