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She was a very good person. Everybody knew her because everybody knew the Charities Review, everybody knew the Charities library, before the Russell Sage Foundation built a building for it. It was a beautiful library then. So everybody who was in social work, if they were making any progress at all in becoming familiar with the field, went to the Charities building to the library. They were interested in the library and the school. It was in that way that I met Adah Hopkins. I thought a great deal of her. She was a very fine and very superior woman.

There was not any close social life between the social workers in New York City, as there had been in Philadelphia, where I had my first social work job. I was very much surprised at that, I remember. There had been a social workers club in Philadelphia which met about once in two weeks during the winter. It was partly intellectual and partly social and very agreeable. It made social workers known to each other.

There was no such thing in New York, but what with one agency helping another agency most social workers got to know each other in one way or another. At least those who were doing important work got to know each other. The lower levels didn't. Adah Hopkins tried to start a social workers