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there and you will never know it's being done until you discover that you haven't made any decisions. I don't know what the future holds for you. Neither do you.”

When he told me this, he hadn't decided. Mrs. Roosevelt never became like Mrs. Moskowitz. She never arranged things so that he would take her advice. One of the great quarrels that she has with her lot is that Franklin didn't listen to her and didn't ask her, either then or afterwards. That's her gripe. I shouldn't say that, but it's true. The last line of her book says, “And now, at last, I am on my own.” He never did rely on her. He liked her as a reporter. He believed her when she came back and said, “Now, I saw this, and this, and this. Somebody said this, and this, and this to me.” In fact, on occasions when most men would have asked their wives what they thought, he didn't.

Liberal-minded as he was toward women he tended to think that a wife should keep out of those things. In a way she should. Anybody's wife should keep out of these things, really. I've seen a lot of life and I think it's true. A man or woman in public office has got to deal with things as they are and as his own personality, or her own personality, makes it possible, probably and natural. If you listen to your husband or wife you bring in their personality. You can't strive to please your wife when you're acting as