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Governor of the State of New York. She isn't Governor. The fact that your wife is so close to you and that you're so accessible to her means that she can pour these ideas into your ear under circumstances where nobody else could. You find yourself doing what would please her and what she thinks would be nice, when it isn't natural to your personality.

I don't think Eleanor Roosevelt said to him, “Now, don't make an office wife of Mrs. Moskowitz.” She didn't say that. She just said, “Now, you have to decide, because she has good ideas, she has done so much of Al's thinking, Al's exploring and so much of helping him formulating his opinions, that she'll continue to do it. She's that kind of a woman anyhow. She just has to.”

When Franklin Roosevelt told me this, he hadn't decided. I said to him, “You're not going to ask me, are you, to advise you on this matter?”

He looked up at me in a funny way and pulled his lips down, “Oh no, no,” he said. I was beginning to learn very quickly that that was the evasive answer. He wasn't going to let me go on thinking that he'd asked my advice. I didn't propose to be the one who would advise him about whether to take Mrs. Moskowitz or not.

I said to him, “Really, between you and me, I don't think Mrs. Moskowitz would be willing to do it. I think





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