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It was like going to Somerset House in London, where I went once to search for the will of John Francis Perkins who died in 1692, with a cousin of mine who was doing that. It was the same kind of thing. You wait a week, but they finally find it. They know everything about everybody who was ever born, died and left a will. They know how many children he had, how many bastards he had. Everything is all there is Somerset House if you must know, but it's the most complicated procedure. This business in Kew struck me as being the beginning of a new type of Somerset House.

When I came back, Roosevelt said, “Well, how about unemployment insurance? Are you sold on it? Remember, I'm against the dole.”

I said, “I looked at this entirely as a project that would not have the dole.”

“What do you think of it?”

I said, “If we ever have it here, Mr. Governor, the first thing we've got to do is to get Tom Watson and stir his conscience. International Business Machines has got to invent us a way of keeping these records and doing this business without the enormous complication, inefficiency, duplication and amount of personnel employed that they have in England. We could never get away with it here. The people who would do it couldn't stand it. They'd