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go crazy with this confusion. Every legislature and every investigating committee would howl over the inefficiency. We just couldn't do it that way. It's like the way the town clerk in Wiscasset, Maine keeps his records. It's all right for a small place like that. That's good enough and he's a good and faithful servant, but it'll never do on even as big a scale as the State of New York.”

When I told him about the old ladies up on step ladders, he roared with laughter. That picture never left his mind. Whenever I would mention unemployment insurance, he would say, “Where are you going to get the step ladders, Frances?” That little quip stuck in his mind. He did it to tease me and because he enjoyed the spectacle. As a matter of fact, when we actually began work on unemployment insurance in Washington, one of the things he said was, “Look out for the step ladders, Frances.”

I said, “That's all right. We've had Tom Watson's men at work on this for two years now. We'll do it differently.”

It's all done by photostatting and is done on microfilm. It's all over in Baltimore. If you want the record of James Jones, you go into the dark room, they punch a few keys on something and the record comes up automatically. It's all on a code number on automatic cards. They punch the right numbers and up comes all that you need to know. It's flashed