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is so much room for shakedown, so much room for irregularity and so much room for a little corruption here and there that you had to watch it like a hawk and to be awfully close to it all the time and take nothing for granted. We had one or two terrible blow-ups or near blow-ups. There was the man who dumped all the cases down the elevator shaft, and many more. There was also the unemployment problem. The Federal Employment Service was no good, but I was the State Director of it because they had the policy of making the State Labor Commissioner the State Director. It was a very poor thing and we were fighting them all the time. We were fighting the federal mediators who were always coming in and mussing up whatever we did. We had a much better Labor Department than the federal government had - much better, much more alert, much better facilities.

After the first few weeks of Roosevelt's term as Governor there began to be a rift between Smith and Roosevelt, although perfectly good manners prevailed between the two. Mrs. Moskowitz began to be very embittered then. Then Smith very early became the general operator of the Empire State Building, a post which I presume was developed for him by Raskob, certainly with the help of Johnny Gilchrist, a great friend of Smith's, who was such a quiet and self-effacing man, but who had great influence. He had an car