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got him a proper apartment house on Fifth Avenue. They had never lived there before. They had lived in Oliver Street and then they went to Albany. So it was a change in way of living from what their previous life in New York had been, although of course during the years in the Executive Mansion they had lived very well, as all Governors live - good style, service and all that kind of thing.

In the meantime Emily had married a man who had status in good society. Being a very attractive girl she had been taken over into good society in a kind of a big way. She was very agreeable, very attractive, very nice. She was John Warner's wife. So she began to have friends in the Long Island circle, as well as in the good upstate circles. Emily and her husband continued to live in Albany. He was head of the State Police and they lived in Albany right opposite the cathedral. They had a very attractive house.

The whole connection there brought into the Smith circle of friends a lot of people who were more gay and given to thinking of pleasuring themselves than they had ever known before. They were very attractive people. They liked Al Smith. It was during these years, I guess, that somebody asked Al to Southampton for the first time. He went down and spent the weekend at Southampton and was the social lion of the place. He was very attractive when he started out