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I remember saying, “Well, you've got to help him get it off and on to anything else.”

He never did get his heart on to anything else. He had his ambition set to be President. His ambition and his pride made him want vengeance, that he could show them if they would nominate him again, which they wouldn't do. That broke his heart because they wouldn't give him a second chance. He never got his mind and his heart off the State of New York. He was a lost person after that. It was a very great tragedy and a great loss because he was really a very great public servant for whom we did not have in our pattern of government a sufficiently important occupation once he was through with this particular post as Governor of New York. If he could have gone on being Governor of New York for thirty years, it would have been fine. He could have gone on being Governor forever, given good service, created no resentment and made more and more friends. That wasn't to be. If you get the idea you want to be President, you can't go on being Governor. You have to toss one off. Then there isn't any real occupation for you.

There never was any real occupation for him again. The Empire State Building job was a phoney job. It was a manufactured job. They fixed it up for him. It gave him an office, a place to hang his hat, and a place to go, but