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your weight around and make a loud noise paid off. I think he had a natural inclination to condemn people, but I think in his early career he tried to curb it. Then he discovered that on the occasions when he didn't curb it, when he lost his temper, they backed right down and were more afraid of his noise than they were of his actions. I think he just began deliberately to let himself do it, not that it wasn't perfectly natural. I don't think he whipped it up, but he just let himself do it quite easily. I don't know that he was really angry either when he did it. I don't know if it was calculated really. I think he just felt that way and just wouldn't curb himself when he felt that this was a truth. Mr. Jones is a fool. All right, tell him he's a fool. Tell him he's a bloated old money bags - “All you want us to do is to keep the people out of what you have claimed to be your backyard, although it's nothing but public property.”
They had this terrible row about whether they should have access to some marshy land on Long Island, which is now a bird sanctuary or something. It was one of Moses' great ideas. At that time there were four or five millionaires who owned places around there. They did like this empty and marshy land. Nobody ever came there. They had houses on the waterside and this piece in the back was just unused land that had always been there. It belonged
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