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wouldn't like it.” The Governor-elect laughed heartly and asked if I didn't think it was funny.

I said, “No, I don't think it's funny. I think it's natural. After all, you must remember that he appointed me when no woman had ever been appointed to anything. That was really a great act of recognition.”

I dare say that Roosevelt told Mrs. Roosevelt and others, perhaps even Elliott, though he wasn't dry around the ears then and didn't get told much, that he was surprised that Al didn't think it was a good idea to appoint Frances because he thought the men wouldn't get on with her. That didn't mean that Al was furious about it. He just said that he wouldn't have done it because he thought the men who worked under me wouldn't like it. Roosevelt thought that was a feather in his own camp, that he was smarter, more daring and more liberal than Al. Remember that Al was the great hero. People adored him. Roosevelt was as yet an unknown factor. People didn't know whether they adored him or not. Even in the State of New York they didn't know him much. Also he was a sick man.

Psychologically I understand how he tried to bolster himself up at every point. At every point he had to say, “See, I'm a better man than Al. I'm better than Al. I can do this better than Al who is the great hero, the much adored.