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to see the revival of religion and that it seemed to me that there had been more true Christian feeling and true Christian spirit than I had ever seen in my life in the city generally. I felt that there had been such an outpouring of Christian good will toward each other. Knowing him to be a good churchman, I thought these were appropriate remains.

He had had just a little bit to drink and he said, “Mm, yes, perhaps.”

I said I rejoiced to see this.

Then he said, “Well, I'll tell you one thing. We don't want to let this Christian business get too far.”

I've never forgotten that. That was not Samuel Seabury, but it was his brother. I would not lay that against Sam Seabury, but it was an amusing and at the same time revealing remark.

Of all the conversations - and there weren't too many - that I had with Seabury, as a state public official I never raised any specific cases with him. He was pursuing his duty under the Moreland Act. I was pursuing my duty under the Act that created the Department of Labor. He wasn't investigating me. The investigation never reached into any of the Department of Labor personnel that I know of and I don't think it touched many state officials. I think it was almost entirely New York City officials. I think his





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