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and very impressive. While Olvaney looked like a sneaky fellow, Martin Conboy looked like an open-faced person. He never was bright. He thought he was putting up a smart opposition and you'd already run circles all around him. You had all the votes pledged and he didn't seem to be able to catch on to that. He was the dumbest man I ever met.

Judge Jean Matthews was the first woman municipal judge. She wasn't a bad egg. She made an awful lot of mistakes and got an awful letdown, though. She did some very, very good things, but she did some others that weren't quite legal and she got in trouble. The Democratic party got her Martin Conboy as counsel when she was impeached, or something or other. I never saw a performance equal to it. It was perfectly terrible. I was a character witness for her, and so were a good many other women who knew what she had done in the women's court, and the domestic relations court, which had been very good. What they really got her on was that she had sent girls to Bedford Reformatory without committing them by a judicial process. That is strictly not legal, but it is strictly fine social work, because here were young girls, who had been doing a little prostitute work on the side, but were young - fifteen, sixteen years old and didn't know what they were about. So the way she sent them up didn't make any record for them. She sent them off to Bedford Reformatory for a year or so to get straightened up, cleaned