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of her state, but of other border southern states, to whom she had access, of the desirability of having Roosevelt as a candidate before the convention. She also worked in the campaign very, very successfully. She did very well.

Then there was a Mrs. Jewell Swofford, who became a member of the Employees' Compensation Board. She was from Missouri. She had been a very good worker and one of these reliable people that Miss Dewson could count on. She'd go anywhere and do anything. She was a good organizer. She could get up a meeting. If she got up a meeting, you could be sure that all the ends were tied up. There was a car to meet the speaker at the agreed upon date and time. Nothing missed. If the mayor said he would receive the speaker, the mayor was there. She didn't lose anything.

So many of these meetings are gotten up by amateurs and they just don't actually see to it that the plan is fully understood by everybody, and that the person there to see that the mayor is present doesn't forget that he's a part of the picture. All that is good organizing and good management. Mrs. Swofford was fine at that. I don't recall having spoken in Mrs. Swofford's territory during that period, but I knew about her. I had heard about her, probably, from Mrs. Dewson, who had said, “She's swell. She's fine.”

The women's organizations around New York, and in some