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There was Harriet Elliott, whom I got acquainted with just about this time. She was a professor at the woman's college connected with North Carolina University. She was a professor of economics and social affairs. She was later appointed to a number of advisory posts by Roosevelt. She's really very well known and died only a few years ago. May Evans was one of the younger women recruited by Harriet Elliott. She became a very, very hard worker. She was very lively, a very good organizer, a very good speaker.

Belle Moskowitz did absolutely nothing in this campaign. I'm not sure that she didn't secretly, privately throw cold water on the Roosevelt candidacy. She was very unpleased by it - very, very unpleased. Al Smith made a kind of public reconciliation, in which they called each other affectionate derogatory names. They said to each other, “Well, how are you, you old potato.” It was done for public purposes and there was a reconciliation of sorts. Smith certainly voted for Roosevelt and I think he made one or two speeches for Roosevelt. So there was a reconciliation on the surface. How deeply it went in Smith's heart I don't know, but it was a necessary reconciliation, to which Jim Farley had contributed, and I suppose all of us had contributed.

My memory is, and I don't know that I'm too clear on it at this point - I don't feel as certain about this as I