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Hall. But by the time he got into politics in a serious way he knew he had to have the Hall. He accepted the Hall. He accepted through Al and through other people. I'm sure he even went to Tammany Hall for some big celebration. I think Jimmy Gerard told me that he went to the Hall. George Gordon Battle, after all, was a member of Tammany Hall. So was William Church Osborn and Jimmy Gerard was. Jim Farley was too, but he didn't count so much in '28. He was one of the “also theres,” but that was all. He was a Rockland County man, but hadn't come to be so important.

So Smith didn't think too much of Eddie Flynn, although he recognized his value and recognized the value of having the Bronx with him. Uncle Henry Morgenthau, because of his Bronx real estate operations, had come into very close contact with Eddie Flynn, had begun to cultivate him, make a lot of him, and introduce him around long before 1928. I don't know whether that was any special political project in mind, or whether it was just on general principles. But he sensed in some way that Eddie Flynn and his wife wanted a wider circle of acquaintances than they had inherited, so to speak. Being interested in politics gave him a good chance to make friends.

Uncle Henry Morgenthau gave very fine dinners. He had a very fine house on 72nd Street. I'm not quite sure when he sold that house, but as someone said to me, “You may be sure he sold it just before 72nd Street property began to