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course, from any one of these departments the President is entitled to expect that the detailed plans for carrying out agreed upon policies will emerge. There are certain administrative operations and functions which they carry out also.”

I said, “I know the administrative duties that are in the Department of Labor. There are very few in there.”

He said, “Yeah, really?”

I said, “Yes.” I told them what they were. They were very trifling. “All of them have been extremely badly done.” I told him what the Wickersham report had said about the Immigration Service, which was in the Department of Labor and which was its largest single operation, employing the largest number of people and the greatest amount of money. The Labor Department at that time had an appropriation of $3,000,000, I think, in 1932, of which $2,000,000 went to the immigration service, leaving a million for all other duties that could conceivably be thought of in the Department of Labor. I used to use those figures, saying, “That's all that was ever done about labor, really.” As a matter of fact, nothing had ever been done about working people, or working people's problems, or labor legislation in the Department of Labor, except the small amount that was done in the Bureau of Women in Industry.

I told Roosevelt all about the Department of Labor