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that he was inheriting. I was familiar with it to some extent, and I had looked it up to see if I could be wrong. I pointed out that the Children's Bureau was there, but that the Children's Bureau's activities, although happily lodged in the Department of Labor, had nothing particularly to do with working people, except that most children who needed the ministrations of the Children's Bureau were the children of poor people. Julia Lathrop used to say, “It ought to be called the ‘Poor People's Department'.” That was her idea - it should become a poor people's department.

I told him that there was an apology for a Public Employment Office, as a centralizing force, in the Department of Labor, but that it was an apology. They never did anything. I told him the story, which he knew as I had complained of it before, of how the federal government had set up an employment office in the State of New York up in Rochester, because a man they wanted to appoint lived in Rochester, specializing in veterans. We in the State of New York had been supporting, and paying for, a moderately competent public employment office. I was always careful to say that it wasn't fully competent, because we never had a full appropriation for it. But we had a public employment office that had nine branch offices and an