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know-how. They didn't have the know-how. I saw, and he saw, industrialists standing with their shoulders up and their hands out saying, “What shall we do?” They were like sheep asking who would be fed.

In all of this I think I knew what I was doing. I'm quite sure I understood the eastern seaboard states and the life of those communities better than I understood the life of the rest of the country. Yet I think I knew something about what was going on in the West.

There were little demonstrations and marches in New York, but they didn't mean anything. Everybody bought apples from the unemployed with great good will. They sold out almost within an hour always. Everybody was anxious to help and if buying apples was going to help the unemployed, that was all right. They'd buy apples.

There was tremendous generosity in giving to relief of every kind. It was amazing to me that so many people turned out. There was a certain queer conscience and fear. It was not a pleasant thing to drive downtown in an automobile in the morning and have people open the door of your car when it came to a traffic light and put in their hands. The last year that I was in New York I never got into the official state car that I had to go downtown in without providing myself with a large bag of quarters. That seemed to be





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