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don't want to say that's true, because I'm not sure. I knew that he would roar with laughter and tell me not to be a baby. I knew that he would say, “Now, don't be a baby,” with a kind of a disgust. I may have called him. Anyhow, there were two or three days of very great unpleasantness for me. I suffered terribly those two or three days.

I suffered with not so much fear that I couldn't do the job on the technical side, but with a kind of dread for all the agony that I knew you would have to go through with it. I had plans of what I knew ought to be done. I had told those to Roosevelt and it was all right with him, but I knew enough about the government of the United States to know that he didn't have the say. He could recommend and support these programs, but it was the Congress that had to make most of them come into reality. When it came to better administration, when it came to this idea of mine of calling the state labor commissioners together and persuading them that they wanted to have better state labor legislation, we could do that without the consent of Congress. That was just an educational matter. When it came to the matter of getting in contact with the labor unions and trying to introduce into their programs by persuasion something more than mere organization and demands for higher wages, we could also do that. But about the things that we did need Congressional support for, I was afraid.