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I said, “I don't think it will if he knows it. It's only when he hears about it later that it antagonizes him. I just want you to know that that's what I'm going to do. I don't want to fool you about this.”

So I told him. The suggestion was in regard to something that could be done in the way of a conference that would bring labor and employers together. It would have to be done through me, but I didn't want to take the credit of it because she would want to be in on it. I told him that she had suggested it and that I thought it was a good idea and was prepared to move on it. What did he think?

He used just those words, “What's Moskowitz going to get out of it?”

I said, “Oh, nonsense, don't think of that. That sounds like Louis Howe. She's full of good ideas. Why not take her good ideas? She just hatches good ideas. She's got that kind of a mind. She's politically inventive and she's well disposed enough to give me this idea.”

“I don't know. I'd go slow on it, Frances. She'll sell you down the river some day.”

She never did sell me down the river. She never betrayed me at any point. We remained friends to her dying day. I think a good deal of her when I recall her. I know