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myself. It would be very kind if you could.”

Well, yes, he guessed he could. So then he sent for this young stenographer who was a knowledgeable young man. He knew his way around. He knew how to do things. I just got the impression that Mr. Doak didn't even know how to summon his staff. He asked this young man - a very nice and intelligent fellow - if he knew where the staff was and what they were doing right then. This young man realized at once what was being asked. He said, “I can assemble them. In ten minutes I can have everybody here if that's what you would like.”

I said, “Yes, I would.”

So he went outside and proceeded to telephone, I suppose. Mr. Doak and I talked about nothing - nothing! He didn't have anything to say. I don't recall his saying anything. When I asked him what were the more important things that were going on, he said, “Well, of course, the immigration business is always awful serious. That's very important. We always have a very hard time with that. We have lots of trouble with these people who come in illegally. That's a never-ending problem. We do more business with that by these two boys outside (I suppose referring to the two assistants who sat there - the two heavyweights) than any other way. They do nothing but take calls from Congressmen,