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Kerwin who was in charge of mediation and conciliation. There was Miss Mary Anderson who was in charge of the women's Bureau. I had known her for years. Then there was Miss Grace Abbott who was in charge of the Children's Bureau. I had known her for years.

I forget the order in which they came, but I remember that pretty soon Mr. Doak gave up introducing them. He either didn't know their names, or he couldn't remember them. What I gathered was that he didn't know them very well actually and he wasn't certain of names and faces, except for those in his immediate office. So they began introducing themselves, as I stood there next to Mr. White. They would say, “My name is ‘So-and-So’ and I'm in charge of ‘this.’ My name is ‘So- and-So’ and I'm in charge of the collection of the cost of living figures. My name is ‘So-and-So’ and I'm in charge of the collection of the wage employment figures. My name is 'So-and-So' and I'm in charge of the Employment Service.” That was John R. Alpine. I knew him.

In the course of that morning, with people coming in, seven different persons introduced themselves to me saying, “I'm in charge of immigration.” That's the truth. There was Mr. Husband, who was Second Assistant Secretary of Labor and in charge of it. There were these two men in the outer office. They both said, “I take care of immigration work,”