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being true. I'd known him as a very good police officer of the higher rank who had never misled me in any way. He had always been very good and very frank with me. I supposed it was true. I had read the Wickersham report which went into this business of the immigration department. He had made a lot of recommendations and had criticized this very thing. Everybody in the country knew about these raids. They would raid a Finnish dance hall over in Brooklyn - perfectly innocent Finnish people having a dance. They were all Finns and quite naturally all knew each other. They would raid them, take them all to police court, take them to the jail, sometimes keeping them overnight, making them get lawyers. In the end you didn't hear any more about it. According to Newman they shook them down for anywhere from ten to a hundred dollars, depending on what they thought the traffic would bear. It's an old trick. You haven't really got any reason for deporting them, but you make them think you have. Then you make them think that you can wink at it and not report it and it will be all right. It's a dreadful thing to do, but it was being done.

I had been wondering when I would turn up Garsson and was surprised to find him coming in the line and telling me he was in charge of immigration. Here he was and I said, “How do you do. I shall want to see you before long.” I didn't say that in any threatening way. I said it to everybody





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