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Roosevelt started around the table with Hull. What Hull had to say I don't now recall, nor do I remember what many of the others said. Now that I think about it, I think perhaps he talked about the organization of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the Senate and in the House. The House and Senate were organizing. He, of course, had a great interest in that and a great stake in having them on his side. He talked about the organization of those committees and who was who on them. I didn't feel that I should be worrying about the same thing from a labor point of view. I took it for granted that Congress would be looking after itself. He was a Congressman and he knew about that. He knew that, as Secretary of State, it was important for him to have certain kinds of people on the committees. I remember his saying, “Key Pittman will undoubtedly be the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Senate. That's seniority, Mr. President. Of course, you know that there's nothing we can do about that.”

I remember the President smiling and saying. “Well, do the think that will be so bad?”

He said, “No, I don't think it will be so bad. I think we can keep him under control.” That, of course, was an estimate that no non-Congressman would have ever dared to make. No non-Congressman would have spoken in that way