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about a member of Congress, but he had been a member of Congress with Pittman and he knew his weaknesses and his shortcomings. He also knew that Secretaries of State did keep Congressmen under control sometimes. He said, “I think we can keep him under control.” He smiled in a kind of a dry way. He was very dignified, extremely dignified. I remember thinking as he spoke that there was your real, old-fashioned Southern statesman type. He was extremely distinguished looking, but not pompous at all. Cordell Hull was never pompous. There was never a trace of pomposity about him. He had true dignity. He had true restraint. He had a reserve. By dignity, I mean that he had personal dignity, personal authority and personal integrity. You felt the authority and the integrity, the self-respect and the respect for others that go to make up the picture of true dignity. He recognized the worth and dignity of other human beings and I think he recognized the worth and dignity of Cordell Hull. He wasn't a fly-by-night. He wasn't a light-minded person. Neither was he a pusher. You felt that he wasn't self-pushing or aggrandizing himself. I never saw him aggrandizing himself. The impression he gave me at this first meeting was of a thoroughly trustworthy person. He was person to whom I would make a clean breast of everything I had on my mind, with the expectation that he would fully





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