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half-formed. I can't remember what that proposal was now or what the first thing we did was, but at any rate the effort was obviously to involve the political leaders on the Hill in the apparent planning for some action which had to be taken right away.

Ickes, I think, indicated his approval of my suggestion that we must have an immediate program of relief of some sort. Dern piped up and seconded my suggestion that that had to be first. That had to be done even while the were dealing with the financial problem.

The other aspects of that Cabinet meeting are very hazy in my mind. As I say, it was not a clear meeting. It was not a definitive meeting. Nothing very important was said or done. I got the idea that this was introductory and that other Cabinet meetings would be more organized. This was an unorganized meeting.

I went to Roosevelt privately and told him what I had found in the Labor Department. I didn't do that in Cabinet meeting. This Cabinet meeting was on a Tuesday and I went to see Roosevelt sometime during that week. I took drastic action almost immediately. I abolished Section 24 of the immigration regulations entirely and abolished the Garsson squad. However, as of Tuesday, I had made no full estimate of the situation. I had only been there since