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something like that. Then some newspaper man heard about “Tommy the Cork” and it grew. Then some bright person who wanted to make remarks of derogation about others started in on this business, They called them all very funny names. There was a funny name for Wallace I remember. That was when “Fanny de Perk” came up. I just thought it was comic that anybody should have bothered to do that, but it didn't bother me very much. I don't know why it didn't but it didn't.

I didn't expect to be treated with great respect, but I had supposed that the amenities of not calling you “The Madam” or “Madam Perkins” would be observed. I once said to a newspaper man, “You know ‘Madam Perkins’ is what grandmothers are called in my world, in my funny old New England background. The old lady who is a great-grandmother is called ‘Madam Perkins’ so as to distinguish her from her daughters-in-law and her grand daughters-in-law who are also ‘Mrs. Tom Perkins’ and ‘Mrs. Jim Perkins’ and ‘Mrs. William Perkins.’ That distinguishes her from the others. She's the old lady at the top of the walk.”

At the time of my conference with Rainey and his remarks I thought nothing of all this. It was only afterwards that I recalled that that was how my appellations got started. I don't recall whether Rainey's remarks were published in