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to introduce them. He didn't know anybody by name.

I said to Mr. White, “How are the appropriations made up?”

He said, “That's another story. It's a very complicated thing. The Chief Clerk's office is responsible. A man named John Demorest down there gets the figures together.”

I asked the Chief Clerk to come up and to tell me about what the existing appropriation was and just how it stood. After I learned that they had exhausted the appropriation for Section 24, I wondered how far they had gone toward expending the appropriations that were earmarked for other parts of the Department of Labor. The Chief Clerk couldn't tell me one living thing. He was in a perfect dither. He just didn't want to be questioned about this. He said that Mr. Demorest took care of that.

So I sent for Mr. Demorest. Mr. Demorest proved to be an awfully nice, quiet, competent man, who knew what the figures were. He had his books kept all right. I did learn from him how far the appropriation had been spent, but I couldn't learn from him how the appropriation request or the budget was made up. As a matter of fact, of course, they didn't have any supervision by the Budget Bureau. One of the things that Roosevelt did do was to put the Bureau of the Budget on its proper feet so that It was a strong