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scrap. We had a fairly good - I won't say great - conciliation service in the State of New York. It was good enough. It got around and it met the needs of the situation pretty well. So we were always infuriated when just as we thought that a settlement was about at hand, the federal conciliators would turn up.

They always came in pairs. They never went alone. That was another one of William B. Wilson's regulations. That was to keep them from having a shakedown and taking money on the side to throw the strike. He was very wily and he knew what the hazards would be. But the two elderly gentlemen would come together into New York State, never letting the commissioner of labor know that they were in town or in the state, never reporting to anybody. These two man from a foreign country, the federal government, would walk in and appear in a strike which we thought we were just getting to a close. They could always prove they'd been sent for. They had a telegram or a letter from whichever side was losing. If the union saw that it was going to lose out, it would send for the federals. The employer would do the same. It was very funny. We really hated to sec them coming.

I at once changed that rule in the Conciliation Service's directive, by saying that they could certainly go