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although most of the men in the needle trades industry have always voted socialist, they managed to bring them around to vote for Roosevelt on the theory that he would perhaps help the county. They feel they've got to show something right away to make their members feel that some attention is being paid to them. They feel that no attention is being paid to them.”

I said, “You know, I have every intention of paying attention to them, but we've got to get a pattern, a program, establish the proper way to do things.”

He said, “I know all that, but Hillman is the one that's upset, My advice to you is to do something quick- anything. It doesn't matter what it is. Just something that can be put in the paper, I know you can't have any serious labor legislation over night. I know it takes time to do it, but they don't know that. Anyhow, Hillman wants to see you,”

I said, “Well, all right, I've got to go to New York. I've got the day completely occupied on personal affairs. I've got to pack and bring my things down. Would it be terrible if you met me in the Pennsylvania Station? I'll be taking the midnight train back on Sunday night. Could you and Hillman meet me at the Pennsylvania Station?” “Yes, “He said. “We'll do that perfectly.”