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themselves, of course, and I was prepared for that. And they should be allowed to have that.

So, anyway, I tried to draw them out and I couldn't get much conversation out of them. Finally George Berry broke the ice. He was wonderful. He was a good Democrat, a Southerner, and a pressman. The printers were in bad shape. He get up, made speeches, lauded the President, said it was a wonderful thing that the Secretary of Labor, acting for the President, called this conference. “We sure want to make practical suggestions,” and so on. Then he made a suggestion, which was for immediate relief - federal money being given to the states to help out with the people who were on relief. He knew that down in his state, Tennessee, the money was all gone, people were out of work, and the problems were terrible.

Well, then they got up one after another and they backed him. They all had more ideas to add to it. They all had new illustrations. One thing became quite clear - they would stand for a program of relief. Then somebody else got up and proposed that they should allow the unemployed to sleep in pubic buildings. I've never forgotten that, because it seemed so inane coming from a group of labor leaders. You might expect it from a kind of warm-hearted, not very scientific charity organization society, but it





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