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economic adviser to it. Then Johnson and I agreed to appoint him as chairman so as to make headway on the thing. But Hillman was on that. Lewis was on that. Some of the others were also on that.

That did a great deal, of course, to bring Hillman into the acquaintanceship of the members of the AF of L. I may say that he behaved very beautifully through this period. He was calm. He was conciliatory. He was diplomatic in his relations. He helped other unions with one thing and another. He shared his superior knowledge with other members of the committee. He did everything he could not to act superior, which is what they disliked about him. They thought he was always acting superior. In other words, he became very friendly and very chummy.

At any rate, within a year I had the opportunity to make the proposal, the suggestion, to Green, George Berry, Dan Tobin and one or two of the others, that it might be a good idea to invite the Amalgamated to come back. Their Executive Committee met and hemmed and hawed. But they finally invited the garment trades to come into the AF of L, and they did.

After Hillman got inside then his ambitions began to operate. This was, I suppose, a part of his personal





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