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lot of these men who worked for the newspapers had minds that moved in the direction of a Marxian analysis of everything that happened, and of the probable destiny and general direction of world events. They were the ones who invented the phrase “Roosevelt revolution.” They would have liked to believe that it was the opening gun of the revolution, or liked to say they believed, which of course it never was. But they were always reading that into it, or trying to read that into it, or trying to get somebody to admit it. They were always saying, “Well, of course, these conditions are intolerable. People won't stand them very long, will they?” Well, people have stood them a long time. The American people are very resourceful and at least we then had a relief program which took the edge off some of this poverty. “But,” they would say, “Haven't we got to prevent unemployment?”

“Yes.”

“Haven't we got to do something drastic? Wouldn't it be better if the government would just run these industries?” They would ask that kind of a thing in a kind of innocent way.

It was all very interesting to me. I was very much impressed by all that as a state of illness among the working press. It more or less continued until the war came on. I