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were too touchy. It was essential that I should do it myself. So I did get involved in long telephone conversations with these seventy or eighty labor leaders whom I was inviting in to this conference.

During this period Doak's secretary, a very competent, intelligent man, sat in the outer office. The old man receptionist and a couple of typists sat in the reception office. Callus, the old butler, was more dead than alive. They were all out there on a particular occasion when Senator Harrison came to pay his respects, as I learned later. That was all he came for. He didn't have any business. By this time the first week was over and we were well into the second week. I thought that the big stream of “pay respects” callers must be over. I had said to these people in the outer office the day before, “For heaven's sake, keep me free for a day or two, if you can. I must not see so many people. Try to find out what they want. See it you can keep me free.”

A lot of them came with a new plan to save the country. They had to see Secretary of Labor because they had a new plan all written out. So I said, “If you can possibly interview them, satisfy them, or make some suggestion that they see somebody else, why don't you?”

In this period in came Senator Harrison. Mr. Doak's





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