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anything. It would be a profitable thing to do. It's time it was done anyhow.”

He had a lot more things to say, which I do not now remember clearly. He said, “Does the President ever talk about it?”

I said, “Not that I know of. He's never talked to me about the recognition of Russia. But he's had a lot of other things to do.”

“Well,” he said, “it's certainly been talked about in this country. Isn't it about time that something was done?”

I said, “Perhaps it is. Why don't you see the President, Colonel Cooper? After all, you're an American military man. You've had long experience. You know American life and if you think this has to be done, perhaps you'll tell the President about it.”

Two days later, or perhaps even the next day, he telephoned back, or came over again, and said, “You know, I would like to see the President. I didn't think much about it at the time I discussed this with you, but I would like to see the President. I would like to tell him some of these things, but I don't want any publicity about it. Couldn't you make an appointment for me to see the President?”

I said, “Why yes, I see no reason why I shouldn't.” So I made the engagement. I think I was seeing the President