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know what he was doing a good part of the time. He was very much wrought up and wanted me to do something. He saw me several times, but never when anybody else was there. He was so afraid that anybody else who was in the NRA would know that he talked about Hugh.

Anyhow, I was nominated to go and see Baruch and ask Baruch to take him back. So I did. I said to him, “I remember what you told me about Johnson, that he was used to working closely under supervision and in connection with people that he felt to be stronger, and perhaps wiser, than he was, that he was first-class and all that. I remember that you told me that, but it was too late to stop the appointment. However, this is what it's turned out to be.”

He said, “I was afraid so. I was afraid that that was what would happen.”

I said, “I know you think the world of Hugh and he adores you. A good many of us think, and I think the President concurs in this, that it would be wonderful if you asked him to come back to join your organization and to take up the same things that he was doing before, perhaps with certain additional ones for the press and publicity, at least, so that it will appear like an important promotion for him.”

Baruch said right away, “I couldn't do that. I couldn't