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else but Saratoga in episodes when I saw him there. The Governor would ask in certain physicians and certain leaders of the community from other parts of the state to talk about this. It was obvious that Baruch was pushing him hard about Saratoga, to keep at the job, to keep building up interest in the matter. Finally he began to pull in people who lived either in Saratoga or in that county, and the Lake George area, who could see that it would be a profitable business and real estate venture if you built up Saratoga as a spa again.

That's what I principally remember about Baruch in Albany while Roosevelt was Governor. He may even have been there while Smith was Governor on the same mission, but I don't think he got as far. I seem to remember now that that was the case and that he was a little piqued because Hermann Biggs, who was a great doctor, said, “All poppycock, all poppycock.” Biggs didn't believe in this water cure. But Roosevelt was a more sophisticated and traveled gentleman and he'd heard of spas. His Aunt Dora used to go to spas, and that kind of thing. He was accustomed to it and he could see that there was something to it. English people always used to go to Buxton for gout. Governor Roosevelt was familiar with that, at least in literature and correspondence, if not personally.