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It was his idea that he go to Union Theological Seminary, where a number of the men he had had in philosophy were also teaching. So he went to Union Theological Seminary, from which he also graduated. It was while he was in Union Theological Seminary that he took the second prize when Harry Emerson Fosdick took the first prize. He was a very good expository preacher.

So he had interests and education as diverse as anyone I know. He's a Jew, but he could explain to you the Jewish religion in Christian principles. He's also a Thomist - a follower of St. Thomas Aquinas - in his thinking and philosophy, and I think almost the best informed Thomist I ever met, not excluding Mortimer Adler of Chicago University who is supposed to be the great leader of neo-Thomism in this country. He's an extraordinarily well informed Thomist. He's also a Platonist, as, of course, any Thomist should be, but I think he was a Platonist before he was a Thomist. He's expert on the philosophy of Plato. You just can't trip him on anything. He can inform you forever on that.

He's an archaeologist and an anthropologist, and so on. He has information in the greatest variety of fields. He's a Greek scholar. It's just amazing the things that he's up on.

He's an economist by profession, and a monetary economist at that. He worked in the Bank of England - down in the big vaults with Oliver Sprague when he was quite young. Sir