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factors, are not subject to anything like as many as economic actions are. Who knows when the fashion is going to change? Who knows when they're going to invent a new fabric? What's going to happen to the cotton textile industry now that you make fabrics in a test tube? You get your fabrics from the Abbott Laboratories not from the cotton fields of the South. I'm of the opinion that pretty soon, almost immediately, we're going to buy sheets and pillow cases made out of synthetic fabrics that will wash, hang up and not have to be ironed. That'll be the day when the cotton fields of the South will be wondering who is king - terrible thought for them. It makes me shudder more than the cotton picker does. It would be all right if the transition were made in an orderly fashion, but you can't expect that. Human beings don't act that way. This is human life we're talking about.

Anyway, I'm off the subject. I was just saying that Sachs was the man most used in the economic thinking of the NRA.

Getting back to the Consumers' Committee, I think that Ogburn had resigned before the NRA blew up. That's my memory of it. The NRA blew up in 1935 and Mary Rumsey died before that. She died around Christmas of '34. I think Ogburn was still there when she died. With Mary Rumsey's death the Consumers' Committee became more and more just a theoretical