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and the most informed person there, he didn't say hardly anything. He would occasionally put in a word that would recall something they had done at a previous meeting, or would call their attention to some half-agreed upon pattern, or say, “It wouldn't necessarily be done that way. We're making a prediction about administrative detail.”

Johnson was frightfully impatient. He was just ready to scream he was so impatient. All the legal talk about what the courts would interpret, what the courts had interpreted, what the purpose of this, that or the other law had been, just drove him crazy. He thought it had nothing to do wit the case. I remember that it was hot and he squirmed around in his chair like a restless child. He had no coat on. He'd get up and walk around. He'd run his hands through his hair. Then he'd come back and sit in his chair. The chair must have been uncomfortable so that the rim of the chair cut off the circulation in his legs and his legs got tired as he had been sitting there a long time. He finally pulled his legs up into the chair and stretched himself forward in a crouching position on the table. His arms from the elbows up, his fists, and his torso were leaning on the table practically. It was the most ridiculous looking spectacle - face red, hair rumpled, and a curiously restless, uncontrolled, undisciplined look on his face - just kind of





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